Removed boxer from the game

[ToastEnjoyer]

About the PR

Removed the boxer role from the game. The assets (such as job icon) still remain if we ever decide to re-add the boxer

Why / Balance

Currently, there is no station in rotation with boxer, and even when there was, boxer did not really add any fun roleplay, really only punching people randomly. This just removes the boxer. Feel free to debate this in the PR comments.
Some of the maintainer staff brought this idea up, and I decided to make a PR about it.

Really this just removes unused content from the game, and we either merge this or readd boxer into most maps.

Technical details

only .yml changes

Media

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Breaking changes

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• remove: Removed the boxer role from the game

[ToastEnjoyer]

Let me fix that test fail real quick...

[jessicamaybe]

I think we should just readd boxer to a few maps ( #40492 ) I really liked having a funny guy that would just try to box people. Some of the funniest things I've ever seen in this game were because of boxers

Also having more station specific stuff in general is good I think. Some maps just have different things going on and that's nice!

[TytosB]

i should point out that there is a pr open for a new station, #38991, that does have the boxer job mapped.

[slarticodefast]

The title is a little misleading, because the PR does not remove anything from the game.

• The boxer job is currently completely unavailable anyways, no map has slots for it.
• The maps have boxing rings on them with all the equipment available for anyone to use, there is no need to have it as a specific role.
• If someone wants to be a boxer as their job they can have their ID card changed by HOP, and there won't be any mechanical differences.
• Unlike other roleplay jobs like musician, librarian, psychologist etc the boxer does not have any job-specific equipment, rooms, door access or similar. Anyone can do the job.

So I think it's fine to remove the boxer as a roundstart job, but I would keep the musician etc.

[VerinSenpai]

There is an issue open for this that iirc calls for the removal of musicians as well

[Princess-Cheeseballs]

There is an issue open for this that iirc calls for the removal of musicians as well

I will fight for musicians to stay.

[metalgearsloth]

There's an old issue but the RP roles should really just be passenger loadouts IMO.

[ToastEnjoyer]

There is an issue open for this that iirc calls for the removal of musicians as well

There will be a war if we tried to remove musician

[ToastEnjoyer]

slarti's comment

Yeah I mostly agree, I can commit a change soon

[MirandaStreeter]

If someone wants to be a boxer as their job they can have their ID card changed by HOP, and there won't be any mechanical differences.
Unlike other roleplay jobs like musician, librarian, psychologist etc the boxer does not have any job-specific equipment, rooms, door access or similar. Anyone can do the job.

My two cents, not everything needs a mechanical purpose. Yeah, sure you can ask HOP for a title and scrounge for some boxing gloves, but the same goes for most any job and equipment. The only difference is many have a mechanical purpose, but the counterpoint is... why not? Or heck, why not the opposite? Why not add more roleplay roles? Not just musician but a gymnast, rapper, chess master, etc.

Having more roleplay roles selectable out of the box encourages playing for fun, rather than efficiency. Anything that signals to new players "hey, even in LRP you're supposed to play a character" is good in my book.

[FairlySadPanda]

There's an old issue but the RP roles should really just be passenger loadouts IMO.

If the loadout could name the ID card appropriately then that would solve the issue AND give passengers an actually unique thing beyond just being the funny tider role. You could do a tonne of RP job loadouts then.

[PubliclyExecutedMid]

Will this not just cause issues for downstream forks with boxers mapped? And also this just lowers the chances of boxer being mapped in future wizden maps

[lzk228]

Why not add more roleplay roles? Not just musician but a gymnast, rapper, chess master, etc.

because roleplay should be supported mechanically by the game, otherwise it could be like in gta rp, where they mostly don't have objects they can interact with so they roleplay with /me

[slarticodefast]

but the counterpoint is... why not? Or heck, why not the opposite? Why not add more roleplay roles? Not just musician but a gymnast, rapper, chess master, etc.

• This adds extra work for mappers which have to add spawners for all of these jobs
• It makes the job selection UI bloated and confusing because you will never get the job you selected when the map that is picked does not have it mapped
• It adds a lot of extra yaml code, role timers etc
• And the ID card console already perfectly supports this with custom job titles

I think the suggestion of simply making it a loadout option for passengers would work.

[FairlySadPanda]

More of a sub-role for passengers, really, so they can theme their weird space wanderer. Sky's the limit there. Maids, boxers, musicians, psychologists, wrestlers, private detectives. Loads of roles have fallen by the wayside in 13/14.

[NancokPS2]

Since i haven't seen any objections to adding "sub-roles" (loadouts) to passengers with changed IDs. I think the question boils down to what is going to get added first.
Maps that have boxer spawns or said feature?

[ArtisticRoomba]

Generally speaking Boxer is one of those RP roles that nearly anyone can fulfill on-command. It has no special accesses tied to it nor any special equipment than the equipment that's mapped on stations already. Compare this to another RP role, the bartender, which has access tied to it as well as some other important items.

I do agree that Boxer is a fairly funny role and I indeed have had some moments that defined what SS14 is for me. But generally roles like the Boxer can just be a role that anyone can fulfill in-round, it doesn't need to be its own bespoke job.

[IProduceWidgets]

Presto linko! #40492

[Princess-Cheeseballs]

After some discussion, I think we've determined we need a better way of defining jobs in the lobby including but not limited to:

• Sub jobs (So passengers can spawn as boxers or other custom jobs)
• Wildcard jobs (So you can spawn as map specific jobs which are dynamically added to the lobby and communicated to the player)
• Job prototype rewrite (Cause it's very hardcoded right now)
• Lobby rewrite (Cause it's very hardcoded right now)

Once we have a defined doc or plan for these changes then we can safely remove boxer and replace it with a more robust and better system.

[cfif126]

DUE TO NO CQC AND OTHER BOXER RELATED STUFF THEY ARE KILLING MY FAV JOB
If your maps doesn't have a boxer then just map it, as #40492
also many downstreams have mapped rinks

i could also suggest adding golden boxing gloves for 50h on boxer

As a boxer main, i am not lrp and often do funny tournaments

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