SATRE

docs/events/wg_workshops/2023-12-05-december-meeting/workshop-satre.md

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 ## Summary
 
+SATRE was introduced to the room, before the idea of a SATRE working group was discussed, and how it could align with ongoing work in the UK TRE community.
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+Alignment between UKSA and SDE accreditation was also discussed, as well as organisations carrying out SATRE evaluation.
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+Next steps focused on a January meeting for a working group next steps, with a focus on helping other orgs evaluate themselves
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 ## Raw notes
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+### What is SATRE?
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+- DARE UK funded project
+- Focus to be a community project
+- Led by HIC, Dundee; Alan Turing; UCL
+- https://satre-specification.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
+- Leanr and explore
+- Developed specification
+- Now in maintain phase
+- Considered public impact and had patient engagement
+- Guide to build and run TRE
+- UK Stats authority see it as a stepping stone towards e.g. Digital Economy Act certification
+- [Spreadsheet](https://satre-specification.readthedocs.io/en/latest/satre.xlsx) to evaluate your TRE against the 160 statements
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+What capacity is required to create a viable SATRE Working Group? What tasks do we need to complete?
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+- The NWSDE's Technical Design Authority (TDA) has a team looking at compliance of our tech and processes with SATRE (while we wait to find out more about the UKSA accreditation framework)
+- What happens next?
+  - Repo could stagnate
+  - Funding could support ongoing maintenance/development
+    - What is needed to smooth out support
+  - What voices were missed out in the first phase?
+- Similar questions have been asked about UK TRE Community
+- Working groups fundamental, strongly hope to have support mechanisms available in the next phase
+  - SATRE Fundamental to day job of defining a federated architecture of TRE
+  - Pulled together driver projects to form architecture, SATRE forms part of that ongoing picture
+  - Third avenue is feeding into emerging working group at Research Data Alliance. See [Recent Plenary BoF session](https://www.rd-alliance.org/trusted-research-environments-sensitive-data-fairness-closed-data-and-processes) and [draft WG charter](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1877OtQyZ46QCHVZ8_1QqRgZJPXyImZdW1qYVyKItMSQ/edit).
+- Great that SATRE invovled public, reflect this in the specification would be good for funding, and to highlight directly in the specifications where the project has reflected public/patient requests.
+- There are specific statements that came out of public involvement.
+- re above points, aligned with TRE Community application but understanding needs for funding and gaps is key.
+- Build on public engagement, on that angle, nature of spec neeeds be broad and high level, important in the public engagment section. Overlaps with other work in the wider community.
+- People present happy to Chair a working group
+- Happy to co-Chair while aware of appearance of conflict.
+- Another call for the SATRE working group before Christmas to be ready for January and identify key prioirities
+- Happy to share what they are doing with the SATRE team to get feedback on theri approach
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+How do SDE Accreditation framework from UKSA and SATRE fit together?
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+- And how do the UKSA/NHS conversations fit?
+  - Anyone know how those are going?
+- X
+- X
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+Thoughts/comments on SATRE evaluation?
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+- NWSDE are doing SATREfication of their TRE using github rather than spreadsheet
+  - Have an issue for each statement
+  - Aim to get to green on mandatory/amber with exception in place in first phase
+  - Have created [issue to define spec in a machine readable format](https://github.com/sa-tre/satre-specification/issues/254)
+- The SATRE pointing system could have subsection SATRE-PPI scoring how many of the public requirements are being met
+- Consensus there is a lot of value in having evaluation shared and exploring how others have scored but also process that goes into evaluation.
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+## Next steps
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+- Book a time in January for next meeting
+- Focus on evaluations with other groups
+- PIE - overlaps with PEDRI and continue engagements
+- Get alignment with Research Data Alliance?
+- CC nomiated as chair to lead SATRE working group and explore means of succession funding