Graphical issues and proposals

[IhateTrains]

Please submit all graphical proposals/lacking/oddly displayed graphics in this issue.

[IhateTrains]

I will start. New image for Frankish Steel bookmark since the current one is a placeholder:

The guy is Clovis I.

[loup99]

I will start. New image for Frankish Steel bookmark since the current one is a placeholder:

Do note that the displayed bookmarks are also placeholders and may change. However, when it comes to this, I'm not hostile to using that picture, although it may fit more with the "cut" effect.

[IhateTrains]

OK, I submitted the cutout version in my current PR.

[IhateTrains]

Proposal: unique picture for Scholae Palatinae creation event

[loup99]

I'm not convinced by the need for it, but from where did you get it?

[IhateTrains]

I think it's a modded Total War unit. I've also found an image of Byzantine emperor reviewing his troops:

[loup99]

We can't use Total War elements. As for the picture, those are Varangians.

[IhateTrains]

I know, but it's still more Roman-like than random battle scene.

[IhateTrains]

We could use this picture for excubitors, too.

[loup99]

Not really in my view, neither of those would be portrayed like this.

[TurtleShroom]

I agree with Ihatetrains. The first picture would look good in the Mod. The second one is of the Varangarians, though, as indicated by the symbols on their shields. If we edit those symbols out, it might work.

[loup99]

We can't use the first picture for copyright and modding rules reasons. No Total War-derived content. The only thing we could use is the base assets of that modder without any Total War elements , and with explicit permission.

Concerning the second, the whole imagery is about Viking Varangians, just editing out a CoA won't suffice.

[TurtleShroom]

Okay. That makes sense.

[loup99]

In my view these legion pictures could maybe serve:
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Although note that these are reenactments and that we would need to use effects such as cut-out, as well as doing image editing.

[TurtleShroom]

Are they accurate reenactments, though? Most pictures of Legionaires and Roman soldiers that I see are based on the first century (mohawk helmet, rectangle shield, more bared skin, etc.), which is universally associated with Rome.

[loup99]

Those were example samples. I believe the latest one on Commons was one on the 4th century or so.

[TurtleShroom]

Okay.

[IhateTrains]

We could also use the existing "legion marching" picture:

[loup99]

Good idea! Changing the CoA on that, if possible, is the best solution in my opinion.

[IhateTrains]

I'm not skilled enough to change the CoA/entire shields and keep the shades :( I can only do something like this:

or this:

(maybe intense cutout would hide the lack of shades). Are these ones better than original?

[loup99]

I'm on the fence, because it does create a contrast. The shields are also too large on the top one. Otherwise we can use the original, for a lack of a better option.

[IhateTrains]

Proposal: revised flag of the Eastern Roman Empire
Before:

After:

I made Chi-Rho a bit smaller and red a bit darker.

[loup99]

Yeah, that is better!

[IhateTrains]

Needed: More fitting event picture for 2000th anniversary of the Gothic kingdom

[IhateTrains]

Some proposals from the existing files:
royal_court.tga from the mod
feast_attila.dds from the mod
dancing_feast_wol.dds from vanilla
Banquet_hall_Feast.dds from vanilla

[loup99]

Having looked at them, I think feast_attila is quite a good fit. Do you have any preferences?

[IhateTrains]

It also appeals to me. The vanilla feast pictures are good but are too commonly used.

[loup99]

The Legendary Leader trait should be distinct from Guard Veteran, so that could be a potential improvement if anyone has suggestions.

[IhateTrains]

They are slightly different but yeah, not much :D

[IhateTrains]

Noted in my TODOs, but I still don't have any good idea on it

[IhateTrains]

Proposal: Chi-Rho flag for the Western Roman Empire
I suggest giving the current red Chi-Rho version to e_wre and making a purple version for e_byzantium.
Do you want a preview?

[loup99]

I disagree. The Chi Roh was formed by Greek letters, and the current flag is a lot more styled. It also allows to distinguish the two.

[IhateTrains]

Needed: icon for Samaritan religion, as it is no longer just a Jewish heresy

[loup99]

I realise that it should be possible to add an unique texture for the Bureaucratic government.

[loup99]

Going to split off the "missing" religion icons into a separate issue.

[IhateTrains]

For the Bureaucratic government we could use the Imperial government icon.

[loup99]

I don't see how that would be an improvement. I prefer the current icon.

[IhateTrains]

Sorry, I thought you were looking for the government icon replacement.

[loup99]

Oh, yes, I realise it wasn't obvious from my post, sorry. What I meant are the special government ribbons and map icons for the government, not the government icon which we already have.

[IhateTrains]

What would be the color of the ribbons? Maybe purple?

[loup99]

That could be one alternative, yes. Preferably not the same as any other government form to differentiate though.

[IhateTrains]

Proposal: new era image for the Little Augustus era

(the dude is Odoacer)

Advantages over the current one:

• related to the era
• fixes the problem with the image being wrongly displayed after selecting the era, introduced in one of the recent patches

[loup99]

What is the issue? That can be fixed separately no matter the picture used.

With regards to the proposal, since it clashes with the other ones in terms of graphics and has no real identification for the players (since we don't know exactly how Odoacer looked, although this has the merit of being the closest we can get) I'm personally sceptic. The current one is also "related" to the era in the sense that the player can identify, although naturally it could be improved.

[loup99]

@dantaki This is not a place for bug reports, especially for old versions of the game. Please register your game and post in our sub-forum.

[Darokrithia]

@dantaki Thank you for the post btw. Also please include the save file when you post it on the sub-forum