Command line ncISO code?

[ethanrd]

@shane-axiom - There is a connection but I'm not sure how extensive it is. Mainly, I believe, the connection is limited to the XSLT transformation files that are shared between the command-line version and this plugin for THREDDS Data Server (TDS). But I will defer to Dave (@geoneubie) as my understanding of the connection isn't particularly detailed.

@shane-axiom wrote (originally issue 4 on ethanrd/threddsIso):

This may not apply, but is there any connection between this repo and the
command line version of ncISO? The line between ncISO and threddsISO
seems to be a little hazy. TDS documentation and configuration usually
references the embedded ncISO plugin, but according to this NGDC page
and this repository name ncISO is actually a jar meant for command line
execution against a remote TDS instance, and threddsISO is the name of
the TDS embedded plugin.

In any case, the CLI ncISO version on NGDC's page is broken, and I haven't
had luck getting on their mailing list. Any traction/illumination here? A brief
README might make the relation of this repo to ncISIO apparent.

[rsignell-usgs]

Kevin O'Brien (github handle?) has a bit of funding to upgrade the stand-alone nciso, and he and I spoke with @lesserwhirls at the CF-2.0 meeting about merging the command line capabilities into the same jar that is used in THREDDS.

I think this would be a great benefit, as Unidata could upgrade the netcdf-java logic and Kevin O'Brien could work on ensuring that we have command line capabilities that match those of the THREDDS nciso service.

@geoneubie , are you okay with this?

@lesserwhirls , please comment if I got this wrong...

[rsignell-usgs]

Bringing in @lukecampbell here as he is working on ISO metadata harvesting issues as well.

[geoneubie]

Kevin and Roland reached out prior to the submission, they have received a copy of CLI ncISO from 2011, glad someone can take this on!

[srstsavage]

👍 Promising news. Thanks!

[rsignell-usgs]

@kevin-obrien, when will this work commence?

[kevin-obrien]

Roland and I will sit down next week and try to get a scope on the problem, and where to fit it into the priorities and I will have a better answer then. Will update this thread.....

[rsignell-usgs]

@kevin-obrien , any updates?

[rsignell-usgs]

@lukecampbell, you can try pinging here

[rsignell-usgs]

@kevin-obrien , any updates on the stand-alone ncISO code?

[kevin-obrien]

@rsignell-usgs - we still need to get the ACDD v1.3 mappings to ISO 19115 squared away. Was hoping this could happen at winter ESIP meeting...

[lesserwhirls]

Who will be at the ESIP summer meeting this year? Any interest in trying to have a hackathon to bring the ncIso command line and TDS plugin together? Even thought I won't be there, I'd be more than happy to participate remotely.

[kwilcox]

I won't be there but can also participate remotely!

[geoneubie]

Also can't make ESIP Summer but could do something in Boulder for sure. Kyle any chance you could swing out to Boulder?

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[rsignell-usgs]

Since we all know each other, couldn't we do this with a 2 hour web meeting, like, say next week? ;-)

[lesserwhirls]

Very true, although I would not want to do it before the Users Committee meeting (things are a bit crazy around here at this point). I've been wanting to get involved with ESIP, so I thought this might be a good way to kick start that, but I am not opposed to having an all-remote hackathon. I'd be more than happy to set something up at a liquids and foods establishment here in Boulder for the locals to gather in one spot for a remote hackathon, if there was interest 🍺

[kevin-obrien]

Perhaps @noaaroland can chime in. I believe that we are still waiting for a blessing of the proposed ISO mappings to ACDD v1.3 from the ESIP documentation gods that be...

[rsignell-usgs]

@kevin-obrien, do you mean that http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery_(ACDD)_Mappings
needs to be updated by someone?

[BobSimons]

Yes. I brought this up to the Anna Milan and to the ESIP documentation group. To my knowledge, there has been no progress. No one in the group, except me, is pushing for it. Anna is the person who can make this happen.

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[amilan17]

Can you send me the mapping again? Thanks, Anna *~~~~~~Metadata Adds Meaning~~~~~~* [email protected], 303-497-5099 NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information (formerly NOAA’s National Geophysical Data Center) http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/metadata/emma *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bob Simons <[email protected]> wrote:

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Yes. I brought this up to the Anna Milan and to the ESIP documentation group. To my knowledge, there has been no progress. No one in the group, except me, is pushing for it. Anna is the person who can make this happen. On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Rich Signell ***@***.***> wrote: > @kevin-obrien <https://github.com/kevin-obrien>, do you mean that > http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Attribute_Convention_for_ > Data_Discovery_(ACDD)_Mappings > needs to be updated by someone? > > — > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#7 (comment)>, > or mute the thread > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABarOAoIvyfkYH_ iLHbA3WaKuXWLN2jfks5rtRW7gaJpZM4DYmSB> > . > -- Sincerely, Bob Simons IT Specialist Environmental Research Division NOAA Southwest Fisheries Science Center 99 Pacific St., Suite 255A (New!) Monterey, CA 93940 (New!) Phone: (831)333-9878 <(831)%20333-9878> (New!) Fax: (831)648-8440 <(831)%20648-8440> Email: ***@***.*** The contents of this message are mine personally and do not necessarily reflect any position of the Government or the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#7 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AE7e4q0PduVyMgbtQNHYYY94mNE2e19zks5rtRmggaJpZM4DYmSB> .

[BobSimons]

I presume there is a separate mapping used by ncISO, but it would be great for the community (yes, including ERDDAP) if the mappings at http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery_(ACDD)_Mappings were updated to include the changes in ACDD 1.3, changes in your/NOAA's understanding/use of ISO 19115-2 and ISO 19139, and at some point, ISO 19115-1. On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Anna Milan <[email protected]> wrote:

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Can you send me the mapping again? Thanks, Anna *~~~~~~Metadata Adds Meaning~~~~~~* ***@***.***, 303-497-5099 <(303)%20497-5099> NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information (formerly NOAA’s National Geophysical Data Center) http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/metadata/emma *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bob Simons ***@***.***> wrote: > Yes. I brought this up to the Anna Milan and to the ESIP documentation > group. To my knowledge, there has been no progress. No one in the group, > except me, is pushing for it. Anna is the person who can make this happen. > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Rich Signell ***@***.***> > wrote: > > > @kevin-obrien <https://github.com/kevin-obrien>, do you mean that > > http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Attribute_Convention_for_ > > Data_Discovery_(ACDD)_Mappings > > needs to be updated by someone? > > > > — > > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > <#7 (comment) >, > > or mute the thread > > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABarOAoIvyfkYH_ > iLHbA3WaKuXWLN2jfks5rtRW7gaJpZM4DYmSB> > > . > > > > > > -- > Sincerely, > > Bob Simons > IT Specialist > Environmental Research Division > NOAA Southwest Fisheries Science Center > 99 Pacific St., Suite 255A (New!) > Monterey, CA 93940 (New!) > Phone: (831)333-9878 <(831)%20333-9878> <(831)%20333-9878> (New!) > Fax: (831)648-8440 <(831)%20648-8440> <(831)%20648-8440> > Email: ***@***.*** > > The contents of this message are mine personally and > do not necessarily reflect any position of the > Government or the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. > > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< > > — > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#7 (comment)>, > or mute the thread > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ AE7e4q0PduVyMgbtQNHYYY94mNE2e19zks5rtRmggaJpZM4DYmSB> > . > — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#7 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABarOPGm_wdn7DBpsaDTuUlwRSuRL00Rks5rtRy3gaJpZM4DYmSB> .

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[kevin-obrien]

@noaaroland worked with Philip Jones and they put together a spreadsheet of proposed mappings from ACDD 1.3 to ISO. Message was sent Feb 9. I can forward it to you, Anna..

[BobSimons]

It would be great if these were published at the ACDD website (after Anna's input) for anyone to see and use. I don't think the ESIP documentation group will resist. (Kevin, can you please forward a copy to me?) (Anna, can you please keep me in the loop?)

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[amilan17]

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Bob Simons ***@***.***> wrote: (Anna, can you please keep me in the loop?)

​absolutely! ​ Anna *~~~~~~Metadata Adds Meaning~~~~~~* [email protected], 303-497-5099 NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information (formerly NOAA’s National Geophysical Data Center) http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/metadata/emma *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*

[noaaroland]

The ACDD to ISO mapping as proposed was done by Phillip Jones at NCEI as part of his work on NOAA OneStop. I just highlighted his spread sheet with pretty colors to indicate the attributes that were added when moving from 1.2 to 1.3.

NOAA in its wisdom will not allow me to share the Google doc as a link to people outside of NOAA, but the link is here.

I downloaded and attached the spreadsheet as well, but would prefer to keep edits in the Google doc.
Proposed Mapping of ACDD 1.3 to ISO.xlsx

[amilan17]

Hi Roland and others, I added a tab to the spreadsheet <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-WCqMij3EUrsWZg9BNvR9gaa_oo6ooj83gmkwSjZBbg/edit#gid=496885175> called "All ACDD Fields and Xpaths" - Rows in green indicate that I think it's a clear straightforward mapping. Cells in red - indicate mapping that may need more discussion or consensus on. The notes column should clarify.... I hope this helps. Anna *~~~~~~Metadata Adds Meaning~~~~~~* [email protected], 303-497-5099 NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information (formerly NOAA’s National Geophysical Data Center) http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/metadata/emma *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*

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On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Roland Schweitzer ***@***.*** > wrote: The ACDD to ISO mapping as proposed was done by Phillip Jones at NCEI as part of his work on NOAA OneStop. I just highlighted his spread sheet with pretty colors to indicate the attributes that were added when moving from 1.2 to 1.3. NOAA in its wisdom will not allow me to share the Google doc as a link to people outside of NOAA, but the link is here <https://docs.google.com/a/noaa.gov/spreadsheets/d/1-WCqMij3EUrsWZg9BNvR9gaa_oo6ooj83gmkwSjZBbg/edit?usp=sharing> . I downloaded and attached the spreadsheet as well, but would prefer to keep edits in the Google doc. Proposed Mapping of ACDD 1.3 to ISO.xlsx <https://github.com/Unidata/threddsIso/files/917941/Proposed.Mapping.of.ACDD.1.3.to.ISO.xlsx> — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#7 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AE7e4u9_6gGSByu-F023THfa4ImNJraHks5rvUf7gaJpZM4DYmSB> .

[rsignell-usgs]

@noaaroland , if you move that document to the google drive associated with your personal google account, you can share with anyone (NOAA, USGS, anyone!). I do that all the time because USGS has the same stupid policy with the USGS google accounts.

[kevin-obrien]

Hi Anna -

Thanks for looking at and annotating the spreadsheet that Roland provided.
For the things that need consensus and discussion - where and how should that happen? I assume this is an ESIP documentation cluster activity?

thanks..

[dpsnowden]

Just wondering on the status of this thread. Have the mappings in the spreadsheet been "approved" by whoever needs to do this? Have they been implemented in ERDDAP (@BobSimons) or ncISO (@kevin-obrien)?

I'm also still a little unclear on the relationship between what used be the standalone nciso.jar application and the threddsiso.jar app that is bundled with THREDDS.

We are struggling with providing good attribution back to (operators/publishers/funders/data analysts) etc on our national aggregation products like the IOOS Catalog and Environmental Data Server and having a reliable source of information on the crosswalks would really help us out.

[kevin-obrien]

Hi Derrick - Here's what (I think) I know.

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Derrick Snowden ***@***.***> wrote: Just wondering on the status of this thread. Have the mappings in the spreadsheet been "approved" by whoever needs to do this? Have they been implemented in ERDDAP ***@***.*** <https://github.com/bobsimons>) or ncISO ***@***.*** <https://github.com/kevin-obrien>)?

The mappings have been approved, thanks to Anna, Phil, Dave and Roland. There is some discussion going on about ensuring that the xpaths are correct.. I'm also still a little unclear on the relationship between what used be

the standalone nciso.jar application and the threddsiso.jar app that is bundled with THREDDS.

Well, right now, they are still separate, though it would be simpler if they could be unified. I'll have to leave it to Sean to touch on that. Roland is going on vacation, but will look at implementing the approved mappings in his XSLT (of the standalone app), and will check that in to the git repository once complete. He's already checked in an updated XSLT to the threddsiso git repository. hope that helps Kevin

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We are struggling with providing good attribution back to (operators/publishers/funders/data analysts) etc on our national aggregation products like the IOOS Catalog <http://data.ioos.us> and Environmental Data Server <http://eds.ioos.us> and having a reliable source of information on the crosswalks would really help us out. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#7 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AGcC5tnb9lB5rlBGy7C74MHngaGkWF1tks5sQMAvgaJpZM4DYmSB> .

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